How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on Australia’s Breakthrough
Tania de Jong joins Tim Ferriss to explain how she helped make Australia the first country to reschedule MDMA and psilocybin as prescription medicines.
The gist
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De Jong's group built 30+ local chapters with standard templates, generating over 13,000 public submissions, the most ever received for a medicine rescheduling in Australia.
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Training 750+ clinicians before the medicines were legal meant treatment could begin immediately once rescheduling passed.
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Showing 60 to 80% remission rates versus 10 to 15% for standard treatments persuaded Australia's Department of Veterans Affairs and major insurers to fund sessions.
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De Jong says reframing inaction as the riskier choice, by showing regulators that withholding access caused preventable deaths, helped shift the internal conversation at the regulator.
"If you're a clinician or therapist out there and you really would like to work in this field and you want to learn from the world's best, we have the most extraordinary global faculty that is teaching our certificate in psychedelic assisted therapy. People like Bessel van der ..."
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