What It Means to Be On That Hill with Seth Wickersham

Ryan Holiday · · 31 min

Ryan Holiday talks with journalist Seth Wickersham about what drives elite performers, drawing on his two decades reporting on top athletes and coaches.

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The gist

  1. Showing up consistently and giving your best effort matters more than winning everything or reaching the very top of your field.
  2. Wickersham says to separate hard work outcomes, which you can control, from luck outcomes like a Pulitzer, which you largely cannot.

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