Stoicism, Democracy, and Personal Responsibility, | Stacey Abrams

Ryan Holiday · · 46 min

Ryan Holiday talks with Stacey Abrams about stoicism, democracy and accountability. They argue stoicism is not quiet resignation but calm, steady effort to fix broken systems, and that leaders must explain clearly why things matter.

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The gist

  1. Abrams says shame still has a place as a check on behavior, and she once called each staffer to apologize for a poorly communicated decision.
  2. Holiday says accountability is built in small moments, like telling a driver he had accidentally marked the car door with a Sharpie.

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