Ep 515: Crafting Deeper Client Relationships To Drive Loyalty, Referrals, And Gain Career Flexibi...

Michael Kitces · · 1 hr 30 min

Michael Kitces talks with Sarah Baker, a senior wealth adviser at Mason Investment Advisory Services serving 60 households with $260 million, about building deep, in-person client relationships that drive referrals and keep her career options open.

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The gist

  1. Baker meets clients where they feel comfortable, like their homes, a horse barn or a sailboat, and looks for each client's greatest felt need.
  2. She often moves a new client into a similar, lower-cost Mason model first, mapping portfolios in Black Diamond, then digs into planning afterward.

What they recommend · 2 picks

Black Diamond Finance & investing

"We have an internal software that's like we'll look through Black Diamond, and they're adding in their current portfolio and then mapping that over to a Mason investment strateg..."

E-Money Software & apps

"In our meetings this past meeting cycle, we did a beneficiary designation review for every client. And so, create a report from eMoney. Here's all your retirement accounts. And ..."

Also mentioned

24:37 PowerPoint · "We have a Mason client proposition that just gives, you know, it's a PowerPoint slide deck, and I'll just..."
26:24 Morningstar · "We've had like Morningstar tools or different things where you can kind of enter it in there, but this more..."
27:40 RightCapital · "So for your end, you're not necessarily going through a full eMoney guide, RightCapital financial plan..."
47:28 ChatGPT · "You can't go to a robo-advisor and type in, 'My husband just died. What do I do?' You know, or ask ChatGPT...."
50:19 Bull Run Winery · "We've done like a wine tasting. We've done some events at like Bull Run Winery where we just talk about......"
1:03:49 Diamond Consultants · "I think it was Diamond... I think it was Diamond Consulting out of New York, maybe."

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