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"Like I think if you're a Fortune 500 company right now, kind of a no-brainer to go with Harvey for everything related to legal."

"Look at what's happening to Rogo, what's happening to Harvey, right? If you look in OpenAI, they're building vertical companies that are competing with that."

"When we look at like a Legora and a Harvey, I'm going to be unpopular. I think both will do very well."

"The paradigmatic example is like a Harvey or something where they get all these law firms on board. So they then get access to their data and then their usage and then they train their own models."

John Coogan

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"Harvey's legal agent benchmark is up to 15%, whereas other models are down at between five and 13%."

Greg Isenberg

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"They started adding industry tools and workflow rules and memory and then they became harnesses. An example of that would be you saw a lot of that in the legal space, Harvey, Spellbook, I think it's called."

"Folks like Harvey kind of maybe trying to take a similar approach from a legal perspective. There are a lot of these amazing domain-specific model approaches to things."

a16z

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"We know that companies like Harvey and Decagon are really fine-tuning models now."

Jason Lemkin

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"Folks are running Harvey and Legora all day long. Like Harry's partner: she gets home, she's on the sofa running it all effing day long."

"Harvey, Abridge, EliseAI, they are growing faster than any of the precedents ever have in their industry."

Jordi Hays

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"We've talked to some lawyers that use Harvey. Seems like a great product. We also had Lorra on the show just last week. Had a good time with them. Seems like a very competitive space."

"I'll call someone like Winston at Harvey. And Winston's ability to just not worry about the hundred flesh wounds that are inflicted on him at any given time and just think about the kind of end-state goal of where he's going to be 3 years from now..."

"Harvey announced September 9th that they had their own proprietary legal AI model. It's called Tenant and they based it on Kimi K3."

"They did a really good job commercially early days. They were smart — there was like a research plus lawyer combo. They got some momentum and some high-profile law firms to sign up early days, but the usage was not very good. Now fast forward post..."

This Week in Startups

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"Harvey today is using capital — I would say Harvey, the jury is still out on Harvey. I was in Times Square today and the side of a building 40 stories tall was a Harvey ad and the ad said Harvey $15.5 billion valuation."

"If you look at Harvey and the function of the law, like rationally, if you think that we can do next token prediction with language and you knew that in late 2022, then law is structured language. You need to read a lot of documents and you need t..."

"Harvey has done an incredible job and legal has sort of taken off. I think they can see the future of how to be that abstraction layer and do the work."

"I think you're going to have specialized models for specific use cases like legal tech. If you look at Harvey, for example, I think they're leading the category in terms of specialization."

"If you think about Harvey or Lora for law and you've seen the growth in those companies, this is that for accounting."

Anish Acharya

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"Harvey's had some great results with this as well. The trade-off of that kind of reinforcement learning is you lose generality — the best model fine-tuned for solving legal problems may not be great at solving theoretical math problems, and that's..."

"I'm obviously biased, but I think Harvey is very well positioned because they have the widest distribution. I just don't understand investors' willingness to invest in the nth competitor."

"Harvey, which is the leading legal use case system, it's based on GLM 5.1, right? And it was upgraded — it used to be based on some other open source model from two years ago."

"Harvey did a fantastic job of winning the right law firms for this very new, very theoretically high-risk initiative where you're augmenting your human workforce with AI capabilities and really automating what junior lawyers would be doing on a da..."

"She worked at Harvey and was doing legal stuff, and she was really excited about robots, so she bought a cheap robot and basically in her bedroom played around with it and tried fine-tuning an open source model."

"By the time you're chucking in Harvey, you're adding two, three hundred million, right?"

"Lor and Harvey have just like absolutely eye-watering numbers that for the last three years now, clearly among the very best."

"There are companies like Harvey who are going in saying, 'We're going to be the ones who win on professional service AI — for legal or for accounting and things like that.' That's a big, big area to conquer."

"You're friends with Winston from Harvey. Fantastic guy. Who obviously I'm sure has - I don't know if you guys have spoken about this actually, but like that's a big spend. $500 million across 5 years to internally build their own Harvey or Lora."

Riley Brown

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"There's a startup that many people talk about called Harvey and so Harvey is like ChatGPT for law and they basically compiled all of this domain knowledge about law."

"Harvey AI Legal where selling to law firms traditionally has been awful. Harvey's not much broader than that, right? They also have very strong enterprise adoption and lots of different people using them in different ways, but the dogma was always..."

"at KP we invested early in companies like Windsurf and Harvey and we saw what happened when you can point these models at structured and unstructured text"

"What we're doing is building a system for lawyers to use all of these models to do their work in a much better way and much more streamlined way. Another way to think about it is we are basically tracking the progress of all of these models in the..."

"there's companies like Harvey who are going in saying we're going to be the ones who win on professional service, you know, AI for legal or for accounting"

20VC with Harry Stebbings

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"Several new entrants joined the rankings this quarter... Harvey"

"Harvey and Lagora will have to do the same thing that Cursor is doing"

Alex Finn

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"Claude announces illegal business. Harvey is gone, right?"

Garry Tan

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"the rumor for Harvey is that like you know you might have they might have spent a bunch of money a bunch of the VC capital on fine-tuning models that are like not better than the frontier models"

"I've read amazing news about RAMP raising at 30 billion. Harvey, Legora, companies you talked about."