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20VC with Harry Stebbings · · 1 hr 21 min

Harry Stebbings, Jason Lemkin, and Rory O'Driscoll discuss Meta's AI app hitting number one, Anthropic's IPO delay, and how to tell defensible AI bets from risky infrastructure plays.

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The gist

  1. Meta AI topped the app store, and the hosts see coding agents as especially defensible because enterprises won't share source code with outside AI providers.
  2. Agentic commerce will let AI agents bypass traditional gatekeepers like Amazon's ad business, rewarding platforms with open APIs instead.

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