Roles aren't converging—they're expanding | Tamar Yehoshua (Atlassian CPO)

Lenny's Podcast · · 22 min

Tamar Yehoshua, CPO at Atlassian, talks with Lenny Rachitsky about how AI is expanding what PMs do rather than replacing them, with examples of 3-6x faster delivery.

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The gist

  1. PMs are now writing code, running evaluations, and debugging prompts, but which skills matter depends on the project phase.
  2. Automating feedback triage and test creation shrunk one task from half a day to 10 minutes using tools that understand your company's context.

What they recommend · 3 picks

Rovo Productivity

"Mike, our CEO, DM'd me and one of the product leads and says, 'When is some feature launching?' Five minutes later, he sent a screenshot of Rovo, which is Atlassian's AI product..."

Loom Productivity

"They started with Loom. In a Loom video, you could record the UI that you wanted to change, or you could record the Figma designs with a talk track, or you could just brainstorm..."

Tamar Yehoshua ·14 creators recommend it·Tamar's productivity →
Jira Service Management Software & apps

"We used Jira Service Management to take and review all of the videos from the customer insights. We got over 900 pieces of feedback. We used a Rovo agent to then triage and cate..."

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