$100M ARR Founder: The Next Big AI Opportunity

Greg Isenberg · · 49 min

Greg Isenberg talks with Jon Noronha, co-founder and chief product officer of Gamma, about agent harnesses: how Gamma built one, how it tests models, and where vertical harness startup opportunities remain.

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The gist

  1. Noronha explains a harness as the tools an agent uses; one Gamma deck can take about 20 models and 200 calls, including visual QA.
  2. Since taste is hard to score with evals, Gamma leans on A/B testing; a fast mode that skipped steps lost on satisfaction and paid conversion.

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Claude AI tools

"This is something that's gotten easier than ever. Like, absolutely, Claude is my data scientist. And so I would say now everybody on our team is constantly armed with very fine-..."

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Slack Productivity

"If I could build a harness for anything, it would be Slack. And I'm a little disappointed that Slack themselves have not built the harness for Slack... I have sent approximately..."

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