Pro and Tell, The Gurmanator Joins, New Google Models, Open Weight Demand, Joe's Monkeys
John Coogan and Jordi Hays recap Apple's touchscreen OLED MacBook Pro launch, Google's new models and AI compute deals, with Bloomberg's Mark Gurman on iPhone Duo defects, plus founders from Coco Robotics, Formation Bio and Upwind.
The gist
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Coogan attended Apple's launch of a touchscreen, OLED MacBook Pro starting at $2,900; Gurman says it drops to 4 lb but touch is nothing innovative.
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Google released Genie 4, a real-time world model, and Gemini 4 Carbon, which tops the Artificial Analysis index at 59; Coogan likes Gemini's concise answers.
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Gurman says some iPhone Duo screens crack from a hinge defect, and recommends the $80 standard Apple case over the folio, which blocks features.
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Coco Robotics CEO Zach Bush says it runs about 1,000 delivery robots and plans to build 20,000 Coco 2 robots for 2027.
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Formation Bio's Bin Liu says drug development, not discovery, is the bottleneck; phase 2 trials cost $60 to 80 million.
"It's a bit lighter. The one you got there is 4.7 lbs. The new one looks identical, but they reworked the internals so now it's 4 lb. It feels much lighter... the OLED is a selling point. And the Dynamic Island is pretty nifty."
▶ Play at 1:07:466 creators recommend it, including Marques Brownlee, This Week in Startups, and Mark Manson.
See all on the MacBook Pro page
John Coogan uses it
"Gemini 3, I thought Gemini 3 had like a good flavor to it. Maybe it was overly benchmarked, but it felt like it wasn't too verbose. Felt like it sort of answered questions in like one page of text."
▶ Play at 21:30"You call it Apple Intelligence, I call it Apple not so intelligent, but still Gemini in there. I like the Gemini model. If I ask it a question like tell me the history of the Roman Empire, it's going to give me an essay about that that's going to be written clearly."
▶ Play at 1:04:2073 creators recommend it, including Claire Vo, GaryVee, and Dave Blundin.
See all on the Gemini page"That flap on the Folio, it just covers that up and makes it pretty cumbersome to use. And so I've had great experience with the cheaper $80 Apple standard case. So if you get a Duo, I would highly recommend that."
▶ Play at 1:02:00What they recommend · 4 picks
"That flap on the Folio, it just covers that up and makes it pretty cumbersome to use. And so I've had great experience with the cheaper $80 Apple standard case. So if you get a ..."
"It's a bit lighter. The one you got there is 4.7 lbs. The new one looks identical, but they reworked the internals so now it's 4 lb. It feels much lighter... the OLED is a selli..."
"Gemini 3, I thought Gemini 3 had like a good flavor to it. Maybe it was overly benchmarked, but it felt like it wasn't too verbose. Felt like it sort of answered questions in li..."
Mark Gurman
3 picks · guest
"That flap on the Folio, it just covers that up and makes it pretty cumbersome to use. And so I've had great experience with the cheaper $80 Apple standard case. So if you get a ..."
"It's a bit lighter. The one you got there is 4.7 lbs. The new one looks identical, but they reworked the internals so now it's 4 lb. It feels much lighter... the OLED is a selli..."
"You call it Apple Intelligence, I call it Apple not so intelligent, but still Gemini in there. I like the Gemini model. If I ask it a question like tell me the history of the Ro..."
John Coogan
1 pick
"Gemini 3, I thought Gemini 3 had like a good flavor to it. Maybe it was overly benchmarked, but it felt like it wasn't too verbose. Felt like it sort of answered questions in li..."
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