Build & Sell No-Code AI Operating Systems w/ Kylon (FULL COURSE)

Liam Ottley · · 3 hr 15 min

Kylon and Liam Ottley walk through how to build and sell AI operating systems using no-code platforms, and why this approach is replacing custom-built AI agency work.

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The gist

  1. The AI agency model is shifting toward a forward-deployed engineer role focused on platform setup, management, and optimization rather than building from scratch.
  2. A solid AI platform needs seven layers: context, data integration, agents, workspaces, a ledger, an admin panel, and custom software.

What they recommend · 6 picks

Apify Strong yes Productivity

"Apify is like the goat platform. I love Apify. Shout out Apify. Actually, they're about to become a sponsor of my makeover series — that's how much I use them and that's how muc..."

5 creators recommend it·Liam's productivity →
Railway Software & apps

"I'm more of a Railway guy these days, guys. Railway is my go-to hosting platform."

5 creators recommend it·Liam's software & apps →
Lindy AI tools

"I think Lindy is so compliant. Lindy was one of the ones that I looked into that has got that compliance. So maybe check that out."

3 creators recommend it·Liam's AI tools →

Liam, Riley, Greg and Peter agree on 45 things

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18:22 Trigger.dev · "Then it was Claude Code and like trigger.dev and we're just progressing through it."
26:17 Codex · "Right now when you have Claude Code or Codex on your machine, you are chatting to a harness that's plugged..."
40:33 HubSpot · "In the case of HubSpot — HubSpot just released their thing called Uspot and it's a one-person business CRM..."
41:09 Salesforce · "With agents plugged into this business layer and they can operate your Salesforce thing and say, 'Let's use..."
46:53 ClickUp · "Most work that's done is not tracked anywhere. It might be on a ClickUp or something, but it is not tracked..."

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What do Liam and experts like them all swear by?

45 things in common

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