Ukraine War: Putin, Zelenskyy, Trump, Drones and the Future of Warfare | Lex Fridman Podcast #504

Lex Fridman · · 2 hr 54 min

Lex Fridman talks with West Point graduate Preston Stewart and military analyst Michael Kofman about the fifth year of the Ukraine war, how drones have changed fighting, Russian and Ukrainian leadership, and the paths to peace.

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The gist

  1. Kofman says 2026 is Ukraine's best year of ground combat since summer 2023, while Russia leans on bombing infrastructure, which rarely wins wars.
  2. Kofman says drones cause 80% of losses, but minefields and artillery still matter, and destroying one tank often takes 30 to 40 drones.

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