“Something Funny Happens When You Stop Needing Women” - Mark Manson

Chris Williamson · · 9 min

Chris Williamson talks with Mark Manson about why neediness, not bad tactics, is the real barrier to attractiveness, and how self-approval fixes problems across dating and beyond.

Watch the episode 9 min · YouTube

The gist

  1. Neediness is about why you do something, not what you do, so cool actions still read as desperate if they are done for approval.
  2. Men who succeed broadly with women prioritize their own view of themselves over what others think of them.

Chris, Mark, Tim and Andrew agree on 19 things

See what they all use, in their own words. Paid ads are left out.

See what they all swear by Or pick your own people

Also mentioned

0:52 Mate · "That and Mate by Geoffrey Miller and Tucker Max are the two car garage of dating books for men. That's it...."
5:45 Modern Wisdom · "Someone once the two best descriptions I've ever heard of Modern Wisdom one was dispelling comforting myths..."

Ads in this episode

LMNT. They're paid, so we keep them out of the picks above.

See what Chris recommends without being paid →

What do Chris and experts like them all swear by?

19 things in common

See