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Thinking Machines

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Last discussed Aug 3, 2026

AI and data science company that provides machine learning solutions and services.

How Thinking Machines compares

2 creators weighed in
Moonshot AI's open-source model

Thinking Machines trained its open-source model using Kimi K2.5 as a base, building on it rather than competing with it.

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2 creators
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David Sacks

"Thinking Machines — they currently have the best American open-source model. You know how it was trained? It was bootstrapped. It was distilled off a Chinese model, Kimi K2.5."

Distilled from Kimi K2.5; used as policy argument example

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Selina Xu

"Thinking Machines, which Mira Murati started, recently released their own open-source model and they publicly said we use techniques and trained it on models like Kimi K2.5. So when a Chinese lab open-sources their models, it actually ge..."

Used Kimi K2.5 as a base for training their own open-source model

What creators say

Praised: Number one American open-source model; became top American open-source model ... vs: Number 10 overall open-source model with 9 Chinese models ranked above it on ...

"I've been a strong proponent of Thinking Machines. I believe that we're going to have at least one massive multi-hundred billion, if not trillion-dollar American company focused on American-first open source."

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Jason Lemkin
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vs: Positioned as a 'good' rather than state-of-the-art US open-weight alternativ...

"You've got Thinking Machines. It shipped the 'inkling' model. It didn't get the 'wow, it's amazing,' but they didn't position it as amazing. They positioned it as good."

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David Sacks
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Praised: Currently the best American open-source model vs: Distilled from Kimi K2.5; used as policy argument example

"Thinking Machines — they currently have the best American open-source model. You know how it was trained? It was bootstrapped. It was distilled off a Chinese model, Kimi K2.5."

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Selina Xu
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vs: Used Kimi K2.5 as a base for training their own open-source model

"Thinking Machines, which Mira Murati started, recently released their own open-source model and they publicly said we use techniques and trained it on models like Kimi K2.5. So when a Chinese lab open-sources their models, it actually gets adapted..."

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Y Combinator
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Praised: Close to zero latency on AI response times

"Supposedly, Thinking Machines — their big innovation is close to zero latency on AI response times."

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"I just don't love my job at Thinking Machines. Come to OpenAI. You will lose nothing."

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