DOGE

"There was an effort with DOGE. It's been very hard to get congressional action to take the steps necessary to reduce the deficit."

"Probably this is by the way also the more hopeful thing on Doge where the pessimistic view is the government always grows and no departments ever get shut down and nothing ever changes."

"We were all very hopeful last year around this time when Elon Musk decided to lead DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency. He was going to go in and there were going to be these kind of big sweeping changes to reduce government spending, fi..."