Anthropic’s $2T IPO, Elon Predicts Neocloud Death, and China’s Kimi Catches Up | #306

Peter Diamandis · · 2 hr 16 min

Peter Diamandis, Alex Wissner-Gross, Dave Blundin, Salim Ismail and Emad Mostaque debate the neocloud debt squeeze, Anthropic's record IPO, China's Kimi closing on US models, and Alex's new chain theory of physics.

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The gist

  1. Dave says Elon borrows at 8% while neoclouds pay around 15%, and Elon predicts guppy-level death among the 200 neoclouds as lenders pull back.
  2. Anthropic aims to raise $100 billion at up to $2 trillion; Dave advises founders to get an Airbnb in SF as wealth flows back to AI.

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Airbnb Software & apps

"So any entrepreneur out there, just get an Airbnb. Don't become a California resident. Get an Airbnb out. Spend as much time as you can in SF. It's absolutely not tax advice."

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Dots AI tools

"Right now, if you use Dots, which is OpenAI's companion, it uses Astra. So you actually have unlimited Astra via that... So I have Dots in the US and then when I come to the UK,..."

Emad Mostaque ·10 creators recommend it·Emad's AI tools →

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