Exposing a Billion Dollar Fraud Scandal (Using Palantir)
Kelly Loeffler, head of the SBA, talks with Joe Lonsdale about using Palantir to uncover billions in COVID-era small business fraud and efforts to rebuild U.S. manufacturing.
The gist
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COVID-era fraud reached at least $430 million in Minnesota and $9 billion in California, with around $200 billion in fraudulent loans nearly forgiven.
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The 8(a) contracting program went 45 years without an audit; the first one removed 1,000 ineligible participants, including multi-millionaires on no-bid contracts.
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Palantir connects separate datasets to spot fraud networks across multiple programs and automates eligibility checks to remove political influence from approvals.
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The SBA is doubling the loan limit for manufacturers from $5 million to $10 million to help cover expensive equipment in defense, transport, and pharmaceuticals.
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